jay and mike started a band in early 1996 or 97 we forget and turned into a ska band with some others... we broke up and a year later stated another band... blah blah again again and again... untill.... this year 2000... jay n' brian joined a band called the ripoffs and soon broke up and added me and changed the name we got toby then soon scott we play we good thats our story hahahaha .....